A RELATION OF THE IMPRISONMENT OF MR. JOHN BUNYAN, MINISTER OF THE GOSPEL AT BEDFORD, IN NOVEMBER 1660. HIS EXAMINATION BEFORE THE JUSTICES; HIS CONFERENCE WITH THE CLERK OF THE PEACE; WHAT PASSED BETWEEN THE JUDGES AND HIS WIFE WHEN SHE PRESENTED A PETITION FOR HIS DELIVERANCE, ETC.
WRITTEN BY HIMSELF, AND NEVER BEFORE PUBLISHED.
Bun. Sir, said I,
let me answer you in a similitude: Set the case that, at such a wood corner,
there did usually come forth thieves, to do mischief; must there, therefore, a
law be made that every one that cometh out there shall be killed? May there not
come out true men as well as thieves out from thence? Just thus it is in this
case; I do think there may be many that may design the destruction of the
commonwealth; but it does not follow therefore that all private meetings are
unlawful; those that transgress, let them be punished. And if at any time I
myself should do any act in my conversation as doth not become a man and
Christian, let me bear the punishment.
And as for your
saying, I may meet in public, if I may be suffered, I would gladly do it. Let
me have but meeting enough in public, and I shall care the less to have them in
private. I do not meet in private because I am afraid to have meetings in
public. I bless the Lord that my heart is at that point, that if any man can
lay anything to my charge, either in doctrine or practice, in this particular,
that can be proved error or heresy, I am willing to disown it, even in the very
market place; but if it is truth, then to stand to it to the last drop of my
blood. And, Sir, said I, you ought to commend me for so doing. To err and to be
a heretic are two things; I am no heretic because I will not stand refractorily
to defend any one thing that is contrary to the Word. Prove anything which I
hold to be an error, and I will recant it.
Cobb. But, Goodman
Bunyan, said he, methinks you need not stand so strictly upon this one thing,
as to have meetings of such public assemblies. Cannot you submit, and,
notwithstanding, do as much good as you can, in a neighborly way, without
having such meetings?
Bun. Truly, Sir,
said I, I do not desire to commend myself, but to think meanly of myself; yet
when I do most despise myself, taking notice of that small measure of light
which God hath given me, also that the people of the Lord, by their own saying,
are edified thereby. Besides, when I see that the Lord, through grace, hath in
some measure blessed my labor, I dare not but exercise that gift which God hath
given me for the good of the people. And I said further that I would willingly
speak in public, if I might.
Cobb. He said that
I might come to the public assemblies and hear. What though you do not preach?
you may hear. Do not think yourself so well enlightened, and that you have
received a gift so far above others, but that you may hear other men preach. Or
to that purpose.
Bun. I told him, I
was as willing to be taught as to give instruction, and looked upon it as my
duty to do both; for, saith I, a man that is a teacher, he himself may also
learn from another that teaches, as the apostle saith: "Ye may all
prophesy, one by one, that all may learn" (1 Cor 14:31). That is, every
man that hath received a gift from God, he may dispense it, that others may be
comforted; and when he hath done, he may hear and learn, and be comforted
himself of others.
Cobb. But, said
he, what if you should forbear awhile, and sit still, till you see further how
things will go?
Bun. Sir, said I, Wycliffe
saith, that he which leaved off preaching and hearing of the Word of God for
fear of ex-communication of men, he is already excommunicated of God, and shall
in the day of judgment be counted a traitor to Christ.
Cobb. Ay, saith
he, they that do not hear shall be so counted; indeed, do you, therefore, hear.
Bun. But, Sir,
said I, he saith, he that shall leave off either preaching or hearing, &c.
That is, if he hath received a gift for edification, it is his sin, if he doth
not lay it out in a way of exhortation and counsel, according to the proportion
of his gift; as well as to spend his time altogether in hearing others preach.
Cobb. But, said
he, how shall we know that you have received a gift?
Bun. Said I, Let
any man hear and search and prove the doctrine by the Bible.
Cobb. But will you
be willing, said he, that two indifferent persons shall determine the case, and
will you stand by their judgment?
Bun. I said, Are
they infallible?
Cobb. He said, No.