WRITTEN BY HIMSELF, AND NEVER BEFORE PUBLISHED.
Bun. To whom I said that I durst not make any further promise; for my
conscience would not suffer me to do it. And again, I did look upon it as my
duty to do as much good as I could, not only in my trade but also in
communicating to all people, wheresoever I came, the best knowledge I had in
the Word.
Fost. He told me that I was the nearest the Papists of any and that he would
convince me immediately.
Bun. I asked him wherein.
Fost. He said, that we understood the Scriptures literally.
Bun. I told him that for those that were to be understood literally, we
understood them so; but for those that were to be understood otherwise, we
endeavored so to understand them.
Fost. He said, which of the Scriptures do you understand literally?
Bun. I said this, "he that believeth shall be saved." This was to
be understood just as it is spoken; that whosoever believeth in Christ shall,
according to the plain and simple words of the text, be saved.
Fost. He said that I was ignorant, and did not understand the Scriptures;
for how, said he, can you understand them when you know not the original Greek?
&c.
Bun. To whom I said, that if that was his opinion, that none could
understand the Scriptures but those that had the original Greek, &c., then
but a very few of the poorest sort should be saved; this is harsh; yet the
Scripture saith, "That God hides these things from the wise and
prudent," that is, from the learned of the world, "and reveals them
to babes and suckling’s."
Fost. He said there were none that heard me but a company of foolish people.
Bun. I told him that there were the wise as well as the foolish that do hear
me; and again, those that are most commonly counted foolish by the world are
the wisest before God; also, that God had rejected the wise, and mighty, and
noble, and chosen the foolish and the base.
Fost. He told me that I made people neglect their calling; and that God had
commanded people to work six days and serve him on the seventh.
Bun. I told him that it was the duty of people, both rich and poor, to look
out for their souls on those days as well as for their bodies; and that God
would have his people "exhort one another daily, while it is called
today."
Fost. He said again that there was none but a company of poor, simple,
ignorant people that came to hear me.
Bun. I told him that the foolish and ignorant had most need of teaching and
information; and, therefore, it would be profitable for me to go on in that work.
Fost. Well, said he, to conclude, but will you promise that you will not
call the people together anymore? and then you may be released and go home.
Bun. I told him that I durst say no more than I had said, for I durst not
leave off that work which God had called me to.
So he withdrew from me, and then came several of the justice's servants to
me, and told me that I stood so much upon a nicety. Their master, they said,
was willing to let me go; and if I would but say I would call the people no
more together, I might have my liberty, &c.
Bun. I told them there were more ways than one in which a man might be said
to call the people together. As, for instance, if a man gets upon the market
place, and there read a book, or the like, though he does not say to the
people, Sirs, come hither and hear; yet if they come to him because he reads,
he, by his very reading, may be said to call them together; because they would
not have been there to hear if he had not been there to read. And seeing this
might be termed a calling the people together, I durst not say I would not call
them together; for then, by the same argument, my preaching might be said to
call them together.
Wing. and Fost. Then came the justice and Mr. Foster to me again; we had a
little more discourse about preaching, but because the method of it is out of
my mind, I pass it; and when they saw that I was at a point, and would not be
moved nor persuaded,
Mr. Foster, the man that did at the first express so much love to me, told
the justice that then he must send me away to prison. And that he would do
well, also, if he would present all those that were the cause of my coming
among them to meetings. Thus, we parted.
And, verily, as I was going forth of the doors, I had much ado to forbear
saying to them that I carried the peace of God along with me; but I held my
peace, and, blessed be the Lord, went away to prison, with God's comfort in my
poor soul.
